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Agoraphobia before Panic?

Question:
I used to believe my agoraphobia developed subsequent to having 4 or 5 spontaneous panic attacks per day for several months. But I've been thinking about my history lately because there is currently a topic at ASAP concerning "dizziness" which helped me to recollect some of the things I experienced prior to the onset of my panic disorder. I suspect if I had seen a doctor when all I had was dizziness, fear of fainting, and avoidance of certain locations, my diagnosis would have been "agoraphobia without panic disorder". However, because I didn't see a doctor untill after the onset of the panic attacks, I was given the diagnosis "panic disorder with secondary agoraphobia".

When a doctor sees the patient, the diagnosis reflects what the doctor observes at the time he sees the patient. If he had seen me 10 years BEFORE, my diagnosis might have been "fearfull child", "afraid to be away from parents".

If the doctor had seen me 10 years AFTER the onset of my panic attacks, the diagnosis would be "major depression, recurrant" and "PD with secondary agoraphobia". Has anyone else developed agoraphobia (or some restriction in their activities due to "some uncomfortable feelings") PRIOR to the onset of their "full blown" panic attacks?




Answer:
I didn't and I suspect you didn't develop anything like *agoraphobia without PD* either. You developed agoraphobia after what I would call *limited symptom attacks*. These are part of PD. PD can present changing symptoms in the course of times. I don't believe that there is anything like *agoraphobia without PD* (whatever the DSM IV may say). I believe if you dig deep enough or ask the right questions you'll always find that PD comes first. In your case I have no doubt. I am not a doctor (would be bad for patients anyway) nor would I want to be one, but if I were one I think I would have diagnosed you as having an anxiety disorder, probably PD w/agoraphobia if you presented situational dizziness only. I know this doesn't help ;)) Chip-don't see a doctor after your dead or recovered it will confuse him. Almost all folks suffering form agorophobia and pa have a lot of personality traits in common. As you can see from the posts. What came first the chicken or the egg? It's like the nature nurture issue it is not a dichotomy. You are a sensitive person who concentrates on your feelings both physical and emotional-if these feelings scare you your anxiety increases, if it increases still it becomes panic, if you panic at the barbers you associate the panic with that situation and you avoid it-the avoidence fuels the anxiety and keeps you stuck in this irrational no win avoidence avoidence schema. You know your not afraid of the barber(maybe the haircut he gives) but you are afraid of FEAR. I'll bet when you were a wee boy you had all kinds of worries- agorophobia is the natural progression of panic if your main defense of dealing with the anxiety is to avoid exposure and experiencing it. Your dizzy feelings are a construct of anxiety your allreadyv tense and worrying about what if I faint? Then the pervasive worry leads to worry about worrying and it escalates into panic. There are spontaneous panic attacks but usually there is a percursor a thought a vision an idea a memory some trigger that sets it off. You may never be aware of what that trigger is it may be elusive but it's there. Your panic and agorophobia are logical reactions, given your circumstances and personality and how you became sensitized to it. Secondary primary target symptoms yada yada--it's all for your docs convenience you know your diagnosis you know your anxiety better then he(she)does it's yours. Sorry I do carry on.



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