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Psychosomatic and drug-induced panic attacks ?

Question:
But it's a whole other matter when it comes to CNS stimulants. I've made little to no progress in these regards. So now that I've been prescribed ritalin (methylphenidate) -- which is actually contraindicated with people who suffer marked anxiety -- I often experience a very bad panic attack unless I've taken a proper dose of my anti-anxiety medication beforehand. I'll start to notice the CNS stimulation, which will make me nervous and anxious about my heart's condition, which will then trigger my fears based on my bad experiences with abusing stimulants in the past, which, in turn, will cause a full-blown panic attack.

But unlike teaching myself to get over my fears as I did with CNS depressants, I can't with CNS stimulants. Despressants are drugs that typically calm and relax a person so one or two bad experience are relatively easy to get over with time and practice. But stimulants are another thing entirely. Even low doses administered to people with a history of anxiety and panic disorders will cause the same feelings of panic. So you can't "start out small" by taking small doses of the medicine in question, and raising it as you continue to feel more and more comfortable with it, until you've beaten the psychological cause by establishing a sense of safety.

Can anyone here relate at all to what I'm saying? Has anyone experienced something like this? If so, I'd really appreciate the advice.


Answer:
how you behaviorally conditioned your use of sedating meds is spot on as to how you would retrain yourself to take any med required for your health. As for the ritalin-if you are taking it for adhd or add, you would not feel stimulated as it has a paradoxical reaction to those who have these conditions. You would feel more focused and in some instances calm. If you do not feel this way on these drugs then you feel the way any normie would feel while taking an amphetamine analogue, which is stimulated or possibly on the teeter of anxiety. There is little you can do behaviorally to decondition this side effect, except challenge the terriblness or awfulness of being hyper-and of course use counteracting meds to prevent the anxiety associated with being stimulated

Of all the things to have regained using, alcohol is one of the worst. It can give, sometimes very bad, *rebound* anxiety as it wears off.

Oh, yeah. I've been seeing my current psychiatrist for over half a year now. The reason I saw him in the first place was over anxiety issues (namely, social anxiety) that my former psychiatrist had refused to treat with anything other than worthless SSRIs (which is ironic since the same doctor would prescribe high-strength opiates and amphetamines to just about everyone else). So he definitely knows about my various anxiety disorders as they were -- and still are -- the main issue.

All drugs or just intoxicant drugs? As far as I can remember, during the summer I abstained from all intoxicants for about 1-2 months. It wasn't a voluntary decision. It simply happened because I lost all my sources. I still took benzodiazepines (clonazepam) for when I'd go out, and I started smoking cigarettes again to give me a sense of doing something with my days, but neither of those substances (clonazepam or nicotine) can be labeled as intoxicants. I can't imagine going an entire year without an intoxicant, though. I'm not sure what it would accomplish either. Except perhaps to depress me.

I hear what you're saying, but I've experienced quite the opposite -- doctors who KNEW they could help me by simply prescribing me a benzodiazepine but refused to do so. Maybe it's because I'm a younger man and doctors think that all their patients under 30 are drug-addicts disguising themselves with psychological disorders to get legal drugs. I don't know. But I DO know that if I'd gotten the medication I needed when I was a teenager or thereabouts that I'd NEVER had tried to self-medicate on my own.

I trust the competence of my new doctor. He's far superior to the last guy I saw. That guy would make me wait in a crowded room full of people who would individually discuss their medications with him and the clinician in front of everyone, and finally, when everyone else had left about an hour later, would give me a few sample boxes of some worthless SSRI and have me out of the door in 5 minutes. Only to repeat the process all over again 3 weeks later.

As for the ritalin, the truth is that I don't think I have ADD; in fact, I know I don't. However, for the last 2-3 years, and especially the last few months, my concentration levels have dropped, my motivation is just about non-existent, and I feel fatigued for most of the day. I don't know what disorder these symptoms indicate, but it doesn't look like ADD to me. Other than the inability to concentrate well when I'm working on something of an intellectual nature, none of the other symptoms really fit under the ADD category. That's why my psychiatrist only gave me a 30-day supply of ritalin; he's not convinced of it either even though he says I show some ADD symptoms. I guess he wants to see how the medication works (if at all) to figure out the cause of the problem.

In any case, although I'm sure I don't have ADD, the truth is that the ritalin -- despite its adverse effects -- DOES help me concentrate than if I'd been on nothing at all. In addition, I've noticed that higher doses increase my self-confidence. Now, it's true that the clonazepam gets rid of most of my anxiety (and all of it if I increase the dose a few times), but it's one thing to have gotten rid of your anxiety and one thing to have increased your self-confidence. The ideal would be to have both of best words: a decrease of anxiety (from a benzodiazepine, in my case) and an increase of self-confidence (from a stimulant, in my case). If it wasn't for the side effects of the latter, I'd have the perfect combination of medicines to start my life over. But I guess that'd be just too simple.



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